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Re: LILO stopped working - giving strange message
Hi,
of course the CDROM can slow down the HD. If the HD wants to talk to the
IDE controller with UDMA2 and the CDROM doesn't support this then either
will all of them talk at the highest speed of the CDROM or at least the
IDE controller has to slow down each time it talks to the CDROM (Actually
the same is true for SCSI ..). If to think of the IDE cable as a "bus" it
also makes sense that all of the attached devices have to talk at the same
speed and will switch down to the slowest if neccessary.
You should make that lone "Secondary Slave" not Master but SINGLE
drive. On many HD drives there are different jumper settings for master
(with slave) and for single (a.k.a. master without a slave).
Sincerely,
Schlomo Schapiro
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Shaul Karl wrote:
> You still seems to have a "Secondary Slave" without a "Secondary Master".
> It is not working and Matan has point out that it is contrary to the spec.
> Further more, Matan has pointed out earlier that 01 means that the HD can not
> be seen. There for, why not trying to change the jumper of the slave in the
> Secondary HD into master? It is only a few minutes of work and might solve
> your problem. Why not trying it out?
> I believe that this change will cause MS-Win to see the hdc as well. Can it
> see itnow?
>
> BTW: My TOSHIBA CDROM manual are against putting a HD and a CDROM on the same
> ide interface. The way I understand their explanation, the CDROM is slowing
> down the HD transfer rate. I do not know if this is correct or true any more
> but according to their suggestion you should move hdd into hdb and have the
> CDROM as hdc.
>
>
> >
> > -- Attached file included as plaintext by Listar --
> >
> > > > I do not know if it is that you simply did not mention it or that you really
> > > > did not do it.
> > > > Do not you have to change the secondary slave jumper from slave to master when
> > > > making such a change? Perhaps some BIOS reconfiguration is required? Does
> > > > Windows can see all your HDs
> > >
> > > Having a slave without a master on a an ide interface, is contrary to
> > > the spec. But in all cases I tried, with both CDs and HDDs, it worked
> > > in both Linux and BIOS (with DOS). I guess it is hardware dependent and
> > > BIOS dependent.
> > >
> >
> > Well, I go with Matan on this, there's nogood reason why it shouldn't work. But
> > anyhow, here's my partition order:
> > /dev/hda ----- Primary Master - 1.3 GB HD one partition (/dev/hda1) of FAT32
> > /dev/hdb ---- Primary Slave - CDROM
> > /dev/hdd ---- Secondary Slave - about 6 GB HD partitionis:
> > 2 Primary Partitions both FAT32
> > In the Extended Space:
> > the first partition is Linux Swap. The second is Ext2 (just 8MB) which is for
> > "/boot"
> > and the last one is Ext2 which is "/"
> >
> > Now, here is my lilo.conf file attached.
> > 10x for your help. :)
> >
> > --
> > Noam Meltzer
> > tsnoam@myself.com
> > ICQ: 4853872
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Attached file included as plaintext by Listar --
> >
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > Content-Disposition: inline;
> >filename="lilo.conf"
> >
> > # LILO Konfigurations-Datei
> > # Start LILO global Section
> > # If you want to prevent console users to boot with init=/bin/bash,
> > #restrict usage of boot params by setting a passwd and using the option
> > #restricted.
> > #password=bootpwd
> > #restricted
> > initrd=/boot/initrd
> > append="vga=0x0301"
> > boot=/dev/hda
> > #compact # faster, but won't work on all systems.
> > linear
> > vga=normal
> > message=/boot/message
> > read-only
> > prompt
> > timeout=300
> > # End LILO global Section
> > #
> > image = /boot/vmlinuz
> > root = /dev/hdd7
> > label = linux
> >
> > #
> > image = /boot/vmlinuz.suse
> > root = /dev/hdd7
> > label = suse
> >
> > #
> > other = /dev/hda1
> > label = win98
> > table = /dev/hda
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Listar --
> > -- Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature
> > -- File: smime.p7s
> > -- Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
> >
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> --Shaul Karl <shaulk@israsrv.net.il>
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