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Re: Remote X windows
I saw in freshmeat somethind called WeirdX .
It is an X server written in java. I'm not sure how well (actually - how
bad) it performs, but given the quality of MI/X - there is a good chance
that this WeirdX will not be as bad...
And it is GPLed.
BTW: there is also a port of XFree86 to win32, but it's still pre-apha,
and not usable. Th URL, IIRC:
http://sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin/xfree
Tzafrir Cohen
mailto:tzafrir@technion.ac.il
http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir
On Fri, 14 Jan 100, Yedidya Bar-david wrote:
> Hi
>
> Alex Shnitman wrote:
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> > Hi, Yedidya Bar-david!
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 12:49:43AM +0200, you wrote the following:
> >
> > > BTW, I think there is a free (shareware?) Xserver for win32, don't
> > > remember details, but look at windows archives.
> >
> > I suppose you're talking about MI/X
>
> I don't recall that name. I am almost sure there are more than one.
> Looking at simtelnet (a DOS/win shareware archives mirror system, at
> e.g. ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/simtelnet) there are 2
> others (haven't checked them).
> Also there, there is a port of XFree86 3.1.2 to DOS, called xapeal
> (quite old, probably dead by now).
>
> > (http://www.microimages.com/freestuf/mix/). I used it and it's
> > substandard. It only runs full-screen (can't use Windows as the window
> > manager), doesn't support XDMCP or anything of the kind (so you have
> > to telnet to the remote host and start applications from there), and
> > any window manager that's a bit more complicated than twm (an .exe of
> > which comes with it, BTW) crashes it very fast. In other words, it's
> > not generally usable.
>
> That's sad. Do search for others, as they are surely exist.
>
> >
> > > I can add that I found linux on a 486 with 8 MB RAM to be quite
> > > a good Xterminal (for my purposes), and anything on win32 needed at
> > > least a Pentium 100 with 32 MB to come close.
> >
> > I noticed that on machines of that kind (486 with 8 MB of RAM) opening
> > Netscape windows takes a lot of time (10-15 seconds or so). Everything
> > works perfectly, just opening Netscape windows is slow. And it only
> > happens with Netscape 4. On other X-terminals which are more powerful
> > machines, on the same network, these windows open much faster. I
> > wonder what the hell is Netscape doing to achieve this exclusionary
> > effect.
>
> I have no explanation, but I can add that Netscape is slow in general -
> it was teribbly slow on my 486 with 24MB (as a workstation, not pure
> XTerminal).
>
> >
> > > (I keep saying win32 becasue there are big differences between
> > > win95/98 and NT in this issue - do check your configuration).
> >
> > Could you elaborate on this topic a bit? I'm not sure I understand
> > what you mean here.
>
> I will at least try. Something like 3-4 years ago, I had to test
> the possibility to make a move from unix workstation at user's desk
> to XTerminals of any kind. It was an XLib application, using hebrew
> fonts, and required 'backing store' and 'save unders' (maybe not both) -
> that is, quite stupid (can't redraw itself). I tried 2 XServers for windows
> (a bit on 3.11, and mostly on 95 and NT) - one was Xoftware, the other
> I am not sure I remember (probably Xinside by FTP Software is such
> a product/company exist?). Xoftware had then their first 32bit version
> (their 3.11 version was really poor). The CD had 2 different versions:
> for 95 and for NT. However, though they were different, you could
> install each of them on either 95 or NT, and some problems were
> only dependent on the OS version (although others on the software version).
> I don't remember specifics, but making hebrew fonts was hard, and there
> were many problems with backing store/save unders. Also, speed was slow,
> and depended on OS (e.g., when you selected and deselected text on
> xterms, it was jumpy on one OS, don't remember which).
>
> Anyway, I haven't managed to make it use hebrew fonts on hebrew enabled
> NT, even with the recent version (at least the newest I have - I think 7.0).
> I now use Xcursion from digital, which has no problems with hebrew, and
> works fine on NT, and has (at least for me) only 2 problems:
> 1. You can't assign it a display number. This means you can only run
> one instance at any time on one machine, because the TCP port number
> is determined by the display number (and it was problematic for me,
> becasue I tried to use it on Windows NT Terminal server).
> 2. If you press it's full screen button, at least as a single large window
> (the way I prefer), it adds scroll bars, even if you don't select them
> in the config. I do hate that, and simply not press that button...
>
> >
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