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Re: Local SuSE mirror
- To: Schlomo Schapiro <schapiro(at-nospam)mobileye.com>
- Subject: Re: Local SuSE mirror
- From: Daniel Feiglin <dilogsys(at-nospam)inter.net.il>
- Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 15:31:17 +0200
- CC: Tzafrir Cohen <tzafrir(at-nospam)technion.ac.il>, Linux-Il Mailing List <linux-il(at-nospam)cs.huji.ac.il>
- Organization: Dilog Computers Ltd.
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Schlomo Schapiro wrote:
> Hi,
>
> PF1/REL imported them last time I checked (by phone). I saw it also once
> in a shop in JM (an old version, of course).
But they stopped. You can see V7.1 on their site.
>
> And, they actually do have an excellend Evaluation CD (nobody else has
> s.th. like this !): It boots a live filesystem from CD with all bells and
> whistles installed. Including proper setup and it saves all the data +
> your home dir on the local disk (vfat partition needed).
>
> I think this is a very good solution for the evaluation problem and people
> who want to suck from this a normal installation can just boot it and copy
> it over to their hard disk (and do normal RPM installs afterwards).
>
> Schlomo
>
> PS: Download it from ftp://schapiro.org
>
>
> On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
>
>
>>On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Schlomo Schapiro wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I also tried to talk to them (and I speak German !) to no avail. I told
>>>them that their local importers are doing them a dis-service. But they
>>>told me that they have long-running contracts and that's it.
>>>
>>Who is their local importer?
>>
>>Last time I looked at their site, there was a link to an Israeli reseller.
>>The site of the Israeli reseller had no mention of SuSE (only of
>>Mandrake, if you bothered digging deep enough into the site).
>>
>>Do you see any SuSE in any store? Do you see any Redhat or Mandrake?
>>
>>
>>>I don't think that the problem is political, though. I see two major
>>>problems:
>>>1) Israel is very RedHat centric (we are soooo American !), therefore
>>>there are not so many (almost NIL) people who would buy SuSE
>>>
>>SuSE sells pretty well in the US. Mandrake (originally french) is also
>>doing well. Maybe some people here have problems with German products (no
>>flames please, I'm only stating a fact), however I don't think that this
>>is reflected in the sales of FolksWagen.
>>
>>
>>>2) SuSE doesn't bother to have importers in many countries. They are just
>>>open for importers to make business with them. I imagine that the
>>>Situation in Cyprus or Poland is not much better than here. It's just our
>>>bad luck that we got an "Israeli" SuSE importer.
>>>
>>Hmm...
>>
>>
>>>Also, note that $130 seems pretty close to the SuSE price if you would
>>>order from them directly (from Germany).
>>>
>>>I once ordered a package directly from them for my work and it
>>>was all very well, except the 60 DM shipping cost.
>>>
>>130$?
>>
>>If they don't start handing out evaluation CDs, (almost) no-one in Israel
>>will bother with that.
>>
>>
>>
>
Other matters: At various times I've seen SuSE even in BUG!
Why SuSE: I started out with Redhat in 5.1-2 days. 6.0 was a disaster. PF1
offered me SuSE 6.1 for peanuts, at Computax, and in terms of distro quality and
scope I never looked back. I must confess that 7.1 was not brilliant, and I
finished up with what in now SuSE 7.1 and a half - d/l'd kernel 2.4.9 and got
KDE 2.2.1 from a CD burning outfit in the US (also cost peanuts).
SuSE refused to supply me the 7.2 upgrade: They referred me to their UK dealer
who said that he could only supply from South Africa. Stuff that. About 7.3:
There are some rather nasty reviews floating around (LinuxPlanet) for anyone
trying to upgrade using the graphics interface (yast2). If anyone is interested,
I have them in a 256Kb tarball.
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