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Re: [Announce] Wordtrans 1.1pre8 released
- To: "Yair Friedman (Jerusalem)" <YAIRFR(at-nospam)Amdocs.com>
- Subject: Re: [Announce] Wordtrans 1.1pre8 released
- From: Yedidyah Bar-David <didi(at-nospam)post.tau.ac.il>
- Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 20:39:21 +0200
- Cc: linux-il(at-nospam)linux.org.il
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- In-Reply-To: <u3d1sr9xx.fsf@amdocs.com>; from YAIRFR@Amdocs.com on Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 05:42:34PM +0200
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On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 05:42:34PM +0200, Yair Friedman (Jerusalem) wrote:
> Yedidyah Bar-David <didi@post.tau.ac.il> writes:
>
> > Is there any way for the data to make that happen, instead of the
> > application? I looked at the Unicode bidi algorithm and I don't think
> > I found anything (any unicode char, for that matter) that can make that
> > happen. If there isn't, that's very sad; it means that we can't dream of
> > general applications to have good hebrew support without manual fixes.
>
> Sorry Yedidyah, but I'm not sure what exactly your problem. If you mean
> the alignment which is "paragraph main direction", according to Unicode
> bidi algorithm this is the 1st strong character (This is on of the
> possible uses of LRM/RLM).
Well, I tried putting RLM in the beginning, and it didn't work. Perhaps
a bug in QT (3, havn't tried 2.x)?
Note, in "UAX #9: The Bidirectional Algorithm", under section
"The Paragraph Level", it says, after step P3:
"Note that when a higher-level protocol specifies the paragraph level,
it is not necessary to apply rules P2 and P3.".
Seems like a possible point of confusion to me. Maybe QT decided to
ignore this part, being a "higher-level protocol" (e.g. put it into
the widget - and that's how Ricardo solved the problem).
>
> >
> > Does QT have (or, how difficult it is to implement) something like
> > Right-Ctrl-Shift in windows, which makes the selected text right
> > alligned (I think without the help of the application)?
>
> I don't think this is necessary it's removed from recent versions of
> windows too where only language toggle is done.
> >
> > Note, BTW, that I made libbab output UTF-8 (and not ISO8859-8).
> > Ricardo made the console version able to output many charsets.
> >
> > This reply is mainly to the list, to the bidi experts in it :-),
>
> Defiantly not Me :-)
I also CC the list. Where are the experts :-) ?
Didi
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