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Re: Job offer: Experienced System Administrator
On Thu, Jul 19, 2001, dgi_il@surfree.net.il wrote about "Re: Job offer: Experienced System Administrator":
> wel said man... you dont need to learn to know ... you can konw wihtout
> having it on a paper...
Actually - your first statement is incorrect. You cannot know if you don't
learn. The second part *is* true - formal studying of CS in a university is
only one way to learn how to use a computer well, and there are other ways:
e.g., like I did, by reading many quality books (not crummy Hebrew
translations of C-for-dummies type books), and having many years of practical
experience - my BA and MSc are in Math, by the way.
If you're looking out to be a good software engineer, programmer, or whatever
you might want to call it, and you're not planning on doing a BA in Computer
Science, at least be sure that you actually learn all (or most) of the material
yourself. It's not easy, it can take a many years, and a lot of dedication -
and you'll only be able to do it if you really *love* the subject. If not,
do yourself a favor and go learn in a formal manner, in a University, and
don't pretend like you don't need a formal education (of course, I'm not
refering to anyone specific on this list! I'm talking about people who cannot
or don't want to learn well on their own).
When you're looking for an employee in the subject of computers, even a
sysadmin (a good one, not a human-Windows-rebooter), you want someone to
which you can tell buzzwords like "regular expression", "hash table", "shell",
"C", and so on, and they'll understand you. A CS degree with a good grade
is some sort of "proof" that the person understands all these things,
though it doesn't guarantee he'll be a good system administrator because,
for example, he can be very bad with people, and users will hate him.
If you have other "proof" of being a good system administrator *and* of
knowing and understanding all the relevant buzzwords and theories, that is
good too - and this is why when you hire people you already know and respect,
you generally don't care about their formal degrees.
By the way, a formal University education (in some sort of science or
engineering discipline - not necessarily CS) has other merits too. You
don't only learn there specific things: more importantly you learn there
how to learn, how researchers work, see other people's opinion's on what
science or engineering is all about and how to think "scientifically",
learn to cooperate, and so on. You can learn all these things on your own or
from practical experience, but again, not everybody can do it on their own
(I'd guess that most people can't do it on their own).
A BA and/or higher degree with a good grade is a "proof" that you mastered
most of these skills, and as usual employers given a bunch of CV's are looking
for quick, easy-to-verify, "proofs".
Just my point of view...
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