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RE: Israeli spammers (Was: goldfish spamming)
- To: "Linux-Il" <linux-il(at-nospam)linux.org.il>
- Subject: RE: Israeli spammers (Was: goldfish spamming)
- From: "Haim Gelfenbeyn" <rnews(at-nospam)hageltech.com>
- Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 08:14:08 +0300
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- In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105170747450.24155-100000@zivan.tcltek.co.il>
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Hello,
For me, this issue is a little more personal. I'm customer of FixFax
(was before they started their spamming), and because of their spam
want to move to different service, similar to theirs. FixFax's service
is ok, but I'm really enraged by their spamming (received several
spam e-mails already), and don't want my money to support such
company. What I look for is:
1. Full Linux support (fax received in format readable on Linux (like
standard TIFF), and e-mail message itself should be easily parsable by
script).
2. Prices comparable to FixFax.
3. 03 or 08 dialing zone.
If anyone knows something like that, I'd be very grateful.
Thanks in advance,
Haim.
P.S.: What saddens me is that spam works... I know two people who
subscribed to FixFax service as a result of their spam. I don't know
alternative services, and FixFax service is not bad, after all...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-il-bounce@cs.huji.ac.il
> [mailto:linux-il-bounce@cs.huji.ac.il]On Behalf Of Jonathan
> Ben-Avraham
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 7:49 AM
> To: Ilya Konstantinov
> Cc: Israeli Linux Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Israeli spammers (Was: goldfish spamming)
>
>
> On Wed, 16 May 2001, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
>
> > On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 06:22:57PM +0300, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> > > The most annoying Israeli spammer lately, from where
> I'm sitting, is
> > > fixfax.co.il. Another spammer, advertising some book
> about a conspiracy
> > > theory of Rabin's murder, had a virus (the Fix2001 W32
> Worm) so the two
> > > spams I got from him were followed by two virus
> messages. As usual, I
> > > contacted his ISP but they seem to be doing nothing
> about it (I'm not
> > > going to say which ISP, so people don't start comparing
> ISPs again...).
> >
> > Oh, I've got the FixFax thing too. Traced them, mailed
> abuse@012.net,
> > and it bounced back (what a surprise!).
> >
> > Later on, I phoned 012.net and spent some 15 minutes
> explaining the
> > person on the other side (probably support's supervisor)
> why spam is
> > wrong. "So, go to your Outlook Express menu and add a filter" ...
> >
> > I was thinking ISOC should take care of the ISP
> "education". Since ISPs
> > are interested in IIX peering etc., maybe ISOC should force
> > participating ISPs to have non-abuse-tolerant AUPs and active spam
> > departments? I emailed ISOC about this, but all Hank
> Nussbacher told
>
> Hank is not the address, Doron Shikmoni is, IMHO.
>
> - yba
>
> > me was that there's also abuse@att.net.il (hey, that's the 3rd ISP
> > in Israel, after NetVision and Zahav).
> > I'm in no position to tell them what to do though :)
> >
> >
>
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