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RE: USB modem Linux driver
- To: Chen Shapira <chen(at-nospam)mercury.co.il>
- Subject: RE: USB modem Linux driver
- From: guy keren <choo(at-nospam)actcom.co.il>
- Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:26:29 +0200 (EET)
- cc: "'Nadav Har'El'" <nyh(at-nospam)math.technion.ac.il>, <solomon(at-nospam)barak-online.net>, linux-il <linux-il(at-nospam)cs.huji.ac.il>
- In-Reply-To: <2EC8116DF71CD411BB2F00508BC24B150262A1C5@gomez.mercury.co.il>
- Sender: linux-il-bounce(at-nospam)cs.huji.ac.il
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Chen Shapira wrote:
> Almost all Java applications are elephants.
> Jbuilder is the worse of them. Its huge, it sucks up 200M of memory, it has
> more memory leaks than my lisp code has parenthesis.
> But its the best Java IDE I know (well almost). The only one that debugs JSP
> (which I do on daily basis).
as far as i know, you can use IBM's visual age to debug JSPs (for sure if
you use their websphere system).
> And it works on every OS in the company.
the jdk is more portable then Jbuilder, and a good programmer that is
accustomed to such non-visual environments is more productive with it,
then most programmers are with jbuilder and its cousins (cafe and such).
> For that, speed seems like a minor issue.
right. for java programmers (that is, peopel that got used to programming
with java) speed is of no concern, simply cause its not there ;)
but see, that is _your_ opinion, and the other is _my_ opinion, and each
of us needs a diferent type of environment in order to feel good and feel
productive (possibly also to actually be productive).
but here is another argument against bloatware - it makes it hard (or
impossible) to load the product on a small embedded system that needs to
be sold in mass quantities and thus cannot afford much RAM. and these
embedded systems are becoming a larger part of the market all the time, to
an extreme that even beloved microsoft does not ignore them any more.
--
guy
"For world domination - press 1,
or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy
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