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Re: mozilla 0.9.2
- To: Tzafrir Cohen <tzafrir(at-nospam)technion.ac.il>
- Subject: Re: mozilla 0.9.2
- From: matial(at-nospam)il.ibm.com
- Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 11:23:06 +0300
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It did not take much time for Tzafrir to discover one of the main missing
features. This is due to strong opposition from the people responsible for
UI (user interface) in the Mozilla organization, who resist almost any
change to the UI. The only parameter that you can currently change is the
charset (using View/Character Coding): choosing Hebrew (Windows-1255) or
Visual Hebrew (ISO-8859-8) lets you alternate between visual and logical
Hebrew. There is no currently available option to set the base direction
of a page, and this is the first addition that we are lobbying for (you are
invited to add your voice on the Mozilla newsgroups).
However, I don't quite understand why this feature is so much needed.
Visual pages are always LTR (has anybody any example of an RTL visual
page)? And logical pages generally are generated by authors with some Bidi
awareness, or at least Bidi-aware tools, and should have the direction
attribute properly specified. So where do you need to override the page
native direction? URLs are welcome (send to me privately if you don't want
to burden this list with non Linux-specific stuff).
Shalom (Regards), Mati
Bidi Architect
Globalization Center Of Competency - Bidirectional Scripts
IBM Israel
Phone: +972 2 5870999 ext. 1202 Fax: +972 2 5870333
Mobile: +972 52 554160
Tzafrir Cohen <tzafrir@technion.ac.il> on 05/07/2001 21:54:43
Please respond to Tzafrir Cohen <tzafrir@technion.ac.il>
To: Matitiahu Allouche/Israel/IBM@IBMIL
cc: Linux-IL Mailing List <linux-il@linux.org.il>
Subject: Re: mozilla 0.9.2
On Thu, 5 Jul 2001 matial@il.ibm.com wrote:
> It did not take so long to write the code, but it took *a looonnng time*
to
> push it through the slow wheels of the Mozilla organization, until the
code
> was integrated into the regular sources and built in the regular builds
> (some of it is not yet there, but I will not tell you what). Some of the
> process involves code reviews and enhancements to better blend into
> Mozilla's design or coding rules, which is rather positive, and
beneficial
> in the long run.
I'm not sure that this is what you refer to, but one of the things I find
really lacking is the bidi controls in the user interface. It was availble
in previous bidi-mozilla versions, IIRC, but it is not availble now.
Is it availble but disabled (if so: how can I enable it?)
If not: any other way to control at least the base direction of a page at
runtime?
--
Tzafrir Cohen
mailto:tzafrir@technion.ac.il
http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir
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