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Re: adsl keep alive script
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- Subject: Re: adsl keep alive script
- From: Ghiora Drori <drori(at-nospam)edrori.com>
- Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 23:39:39 +0200
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Hi,
1) Please do not CC me if you answer this I read the list; thanks.
2) What I wrote a few day's ago was that when I switched to ADSL,
the Nezek salesman told me they could not give me a fixed ip for
technical reasons ( It cannot be done on ADSL ).
At that time I had a fixed ISDN IP number and was happily paying $10 a
month to Nezeq for it. I have no problem paying for what I get, It
was the
attempt to tell me that is was technically impossible that pissed me of.
3)Yesterday I looked at the prices for aquiring a blockof IP's I got the
feeling
that at $120 a year Nezeq was making off like a bandit.
254*$120 =~EURO30480
There is a one time ~ Euro 2100 registration fee to become a small
ripe "member".
Take look at http://www.ripe.net/docs/billing.html
I cannot locate the cost of each 256 block but I would be surprised
if is was even
close to EURO30,000 a year.
4) This is from MSNBC today regarding IPV6 and cisco
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/011203/30059_1.html
Cisco delivers second phase of IPv6 (lots of IPv6 to IPv4 functionality.)
Actually I happen to know from a very good source that three years
ago Cisco
was very happy to deliver NAT and charge everybody for it and IPV6
was not
exactly a high priority. Looks like they now plan to make money on IPV6.
The way the market works everyone else will follow.
5) Somebody implied here that there is no IPv6 for Windows XP,
Well Bill Gates would like to disagree:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/techinfo/administration/ipv6/default.asp
6) Considering the above I think we can assume that IPV6 will become a
significant
player in the next three years. End of IP shortage problem.
(Perhaps I am
optimitic, you may send your flames to /dev/null)
7) To the person who wrote to me about using the F word; the Fword is also
used a lot by Americans (born in the USA and proud of it).
However as opposed to Israeli's they tend to do something about it. For
example when working at a company called Altos about 12 years ago the
local vendor raised the price of a can of Cola from 50cent to 60 cents.
A month later he lowered it back people simply stopped buying.
In Israel on the other side the restaurant's in Park Rabin raised
their prices
by 10 percent each year during Jan 2000 and Jan 2001.
The Israeli response is to keep them full. Last time I looked
inflation here was
close to zero for these years. To bad I got used to American habbit of
not thinking its rain when someone is pissing on me.
Have nice day all you.
Nimrod Simba Carmi wrote:
>Hey everyone,
>
>NezeqInt gives static IPs over ISDN and ADSL.
>(I'm not their salesman or something, just FYI)
>
>On Monday 03 December 2001 12:56, Ariel Biener wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Ghiora Drori wrote:
>>
>>>You should use actcom they give you a fixed IP
>>>Actually there is no reason why all ISV's should not give you a fixed IP
>>>for ADSL
>>>
>>There is, and it pertains to the amount of address space an ISP needs to
>>reserve. If, say, NezeqInt has 10,000 adsl customers, it would need to
>>reserve 10,000 IPs (about 40 /24s). These need to be aquired (from RIPE
>>for example), and it costs !!!. Using healthy statistics, you can see that
>>maybe about 30% of those are connected all at once, so they would just
>>hold some 7000 of IPs for nothing. Thus, they can save money, and not
>>waste the fast depleting IPv4 address space.
>>
>>--Ariel
>>
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