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Re: Media player software for linux?
- To: GFNML <linux-il(at-nospam)iglu.org.il>
- Subject: Re: Media player software for linux?
- From: Ira Abramov <lists-linux-il(at-nospam)ira.scso.com>
- Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:41:21 +0300 (IDT)
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On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Diego G. Iastrubni wrote:
> > It doesn't have to be piracy, it can be legal fair use. If you
> > legally own a copy of a Windows player, whether or not you have
> > Windows itself, nobody is stopping you from using its DLLs in any
> > way you like.
> So, for using Free-Software (http://www.fsf.org) you need to buy a legal copy
> of <any> windows. yes. OK. I understand.
you do not need to buy a copy of windows, you can download a free copy
of the media player from a browser on Linux.
> propel which tried to make a GUI for a commercial program (and that KDE gui
> will call the console program), but they were treated with a law suit.
I can't comment, since I don't know the details.
> The WINE project? According to MS EULA's you cannot run the win32 app's on
> non-microsoft OS, so all MS programs testing on WINE are ILLEGAL. And further
that has been argued for years to be against the law, and would not
stand up in court. there is a consumer protection act and the fair use
clause. if you buy a food processor and decide to turn it into art deco
or a lawn mower it is legal, but disassembling a program is not? basicly
this is also one of the central problems with the DMCA.
luckily, we don't live in the USA, although I heard that Canada,
Australia and maybe New Zealand are considering an adoption of it. kind
of puts a damper on my dream of moving down under one day.
> on: the newest developer2000 EULA does not provide you the right to do
> OpenSource program with it. Again MS knows what will happen if free software
> will enter the win32 market: they will loose that is whey there are afraid.
you read only the FUD sources I suppose. that is untrue, and again is
protected by the fair use clause: a vendor cannot tell you what license
to give a product you wrote using his editor and compiler.
also, gladly, those laws are true only to the USA, not Israel, AFAIK.
furthermore, there is a way to compile GUI programs and even link to MFC
on win32 platforms with gcc, it's just that people prefer the DevStudio
IDE.
> Anyway :
> > Windows itself, nobody is stopping you from using its DLLs in any
> > way you like.
> I think MS is stopping you. read the EULA.
and many legal brains claim half of the EULA limitations are illegal.
Hackers (and here I refer to the ESR definition, not the media's) DO
know right from wrong and they DO have ethics, but they feel free enough
to ignore a law if they feel it's bad. that's what seperates them from
the rest of the herd, they take liberties. when they don't like
something, the change it. their expectations and demands of the world
and society are more often than not unreasonable at the time they are
made, but it is well known that unreasonable people move humanity
forward.
are you going to stop using WINE now because Microsoft claims it's
illegal, or will you join the free-thinking unreasonable crowd?
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