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Re: Local SuSE mirror



I got a reply from order@suse.de, and then it was magically taken over by 
Shelley Davies at SuSE UK, who duckshoved it to Johnathan Thornhill at Bowline, 
their South African distributor. As I said, not-so-politely below, &^%#$% to that!

Schlomo Schapiro wrote:

> Whom did you ask at SuSE Germany about shipping to Israel ? I got a
> shipment from them some month ago without any problem (except the price).
> 
> Schlomo
> 
> On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Gold Edward wrote:
> 
> 
>>I can give some summary about my "quest" for the official
>>distribution in Israel SuSE  .
>>
>>I tried to get SuSE latest version (7.3) from all sources -- and did not
>>succeed  :
>>PF1 stopped to import it and the same situation with another company
>>from
>>Raanana which SuSE site listed as their second Israeli supplier.
>>Amazon is supplying it in U.S. only (don't know the cause)-- and the
>>same
>>situation was encountered after some
>>non-extensive checkings on other US  sw. selling sites .
>>
>>BTW- not sure, but SuSE site sells it for 78 US $ "only"-- not 130.
>>I totaly agree with Nadav-Har'El opinion about this distribution first
>>class
>>quality--
>>I used 6.1 for a long time (bought on BUG on September 1999)--
>>but on work we could not obtain
>>SuSE 7.3 (we needed it because we thought that  2.4.15) would
>>give us some Posix IPC features.
>>SuSE site mentions that they sell only in E.U. -- very curious
>>behaviour...
>>We ended up on RH7.1 (2.4.10 & updated afterwards to 2.4.15).
>>It is an unfortunate situation that such a succesfull distribution
>>can not be easily obtained around here--  I mean their all
>>goodies, i.e. 2300 packages (and manuals).
>>
>>Edy
>>
>>
>>
>>Daniel Feiglin wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Schlomo Schapiro wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>PF1/REL imported them last time I checked (by phone). I saw it also once
>>>>in a shop in JM (an old version, of course).
>>>>
>>>But they stopped. You can see V7.1 on their site.
>>>
>>>
>>>>And, they actually do have an excellend Evaluation CD (nobody else has
>>>>s.th. like this !): It boots a live filesystem from CD with all bells and
>>>>whistles installed. Including proper setup and it saves all the data +
>>>>your home dir on the local disk (vfat partition needed).
>>>>
>>>>I think this is a very good solution for the evaluation problem and people
>>>>who want to suck from this a normal installation can just boot it and copy
>>>>it over to their hard disk (and do normal RPM installs afterwards).
>>>>
>>>>Schlomo
>>>>
>>>>PS: Download it from ftp://schapiro.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Schlomo Schapiro wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I also tried to talk to them (and I speak German !) to no avail. I told
>>>>>>them that their local importers are doing them a dis-service. But they
>>>>>>told me that they have long-running contracts and that's it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Who is their local importer?
>>>>>
>>>>>Last time I looked at their site, there was a link to an Israeli reseller.
>>>>>The site of the Israeli reseller had no mention of SuSE (only of
>>>>>Mandrake, if you bothered digging deep enough into the site).
>>>>>
>>>>>Do you see any SuSE in any store? Do you see any Redhat or Mandrake?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't think that the problem is political, though. I see two major
>>>>>>problems:
>>>>>>1) Israel is very RedHat centric (we are soooo American !), therefore
>>>>>>there are not so many (almost NIL) people who would buy SuSE
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>SuSE sells pretty well in the US. Mandrake (originally french) is also
>>>>>doing well. Maybe some people here have problems with German products (no
>>>>>flames please, I'm only stating a fact), however I don't think that this
>>>>>is reflected in the sales of FolksWagen.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>2) SuSE doesn't bother to have importers in many countries. They are just
>>>>>>open for importers to make business with them. I imagine that the
>>>>>>Situation in Cyprus or Poland is not much better than here. It's just our
>>>>>>bad luck that we got an "Israeli" SuSE importer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Hmm...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Also, note that $130 seems pretty close to the SuSE price if you would
>>>>>>order from them directly (from Germany).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I once ordered a package directly from them for my work and it
>>>>>>was all very well, except the 60 DM shipping cost.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>130$?
>>>>>
>>>>>If they don't start handing out evaluation CDs, (almost) no-one in Israel
>>>>>will bother with that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>Other matters: At various times I've seen SuSE even in BUG!
>>>
>>>Why SuSE: I started out with Redhat in 5.1-2 days. 6.0 was a disaster. PF1
>>>offered me SuSE 6.1 for peanuts, at Computax, and in terms of distro quality and
>>>scope I never looked back. I must confess that 7.1 was not brilliant, and I
>>>finished up with what in now SuSE 7.1 and a half - d/l'd kernel 2.4.9 and got
>>>KDE 2.2.1 from a CD burning outfit in the US (also cost peanuts).
>>>
>>>SuSE refused to supply me the 7.2 upgrade: They referred me to their UK dealer
>>>who said that he could only supply from South Africa. Stuff that. About 7.3:
>>>There are some rather nasty reviews floating around (LinuxPlanet) for anyone
>>>trying to upgrade using the graphics interface (yast2). If anyone is interested,
>>>I have them in a 256Kb tarball.
>>>
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