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Re: "hebrew support" with different distros - ML 8.1, KDE
- To: Tzafrir Cohen <tzafrir(at-nospam)technion.ac.il>, "linux-il(at-nospam)linux.org.il" <linux-il(at-nospam)linux.org.il>
- Subject: Re: "hebrew support" with different distros - ML 8.1, KDE
- From: levo <lev.o(at-nospam)sapiens.com>
- Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:10:57 +0200
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Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> Hi
>
> I would like to compare current "mainstrwam distros" in Israel (Is it
> enough to consider debian, mandrake, redhat, slackware and suse?) Anyway,
> I mostly know Mandrake)with respect to hebrew support.
>
> I would like to describe how some of mandake's features, and would like to
> know if there are any equivalents
>
> 1. locale settings
> Mandrake come with precompiles locales in many seperate packages. Setting
> of LANG, LC_CTYPE, and others are set up by the installer or a psecial
> configuration program. Alternatively you can edit a per-system of per-user
> config file (which is applicable for all the shells, including tcsh).
> Problems: (1) the format of /etc/sysconfig/i18n is not documented, (2) The
> setup program needlessly sets up LC_CTYPE, LC_MESSAGES, LC_NUMERIC,
> LC_TIME, etc.
>
>From my experience, I have set locale this way
add to .kde/share/config/kdeglobals
[Locale]
Charset=UTF-8
>
> 2. font settings
> Mandrake has a utility called 'fontdrak' to configure fonts for the X
> fonts server. fontdrak can import fonts from a windows partition. It is
> also suppose to do some sanity checks to fonts it imports.
> However it uses the concept of one big fonts directory. If so want to do
> some nice manippulations with the font path, go elsewhere.
> Another problem is that it does not allow too many operations from the
> console.
>
> Other than that you still have 'chkfontpath' and 'ttmkfdir', and of
> course, you can edit the FontPath in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
>
> 3. Available packages: qt>==2.3, glibc 2.2 . Other than that: lyx, fribidi
> (for the command-line filter), acon (although I believe that it is
> broken), tetex-latex-{heb|arab} vim6, gtk2 pre-release.
>
> Note that QA is not their greatest side. I believe that acon is known to
> be broken for quite some time (but last time I checked, I didn't see this
> reflected in the documentation of the package), and tetex-latex-heb was
> broken in Mandrake 8.0, and this was only discovered in the beta cycle of
> Mandrake 8.1. I figure that people (including me) don't use mandrake's
> bugs database.
>
> 4. keyboard settings
> As of XFree 4.0.3 everything that is needed to set up hebrew keyboard is
> was checked into XFree. Any distro that carries tis version of XFree or
> later make keyboard settings much easier.
>
> Mandrake's keyboard setup program also sets the keyboard "language" (both
> for the console and X). However it currently does not let you play with
> the options (e.g: group modifiers: how to switch between hebrew and
> english). Setting a "tripple" layout: english+hebrew+another language is
> also a difficult task.
>
Setting keyboard was easy if you know where to click, I feel helpless
because I do not know which exe is invoked (Help button do not give "about"
),
Neveverless, KDE has following pop-up menu hierarchy
Configuration ->KDE ->Periferials->Keyboard
It will set you small language icon on the panel so you can switch languages
by point and click.
I think it will be good to add this info to IGLU Hebrew page, and state that
tahome font will provide hebrew and many unicode fonts, i.e for yudit or
kword.
Still little howto is requeired to let aviword see tahoma fonts.
I have not done it yet.
>
> --
> Tzafrir Cohen
> mailto:tzafrir@technion.ac.il
> http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir
>
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