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Re: SUSE 7.1
- To: "Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo" <frodo(at-nospam)sharat.co.il>
- Subject: Re: SUSE 7.1
- From: Oren Held <mlist(at-nospam)opinionz.cjb.net>
- Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:29:40 +0200 (IST)
- cc: <linux-il(at-nospam)linux.org.il>
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- In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0102241404370.9283-100000@frodo.sharat.co.il>
- Sender: linux-il-bounce(at-nospam)cs.huji.ac.il
Hello Stanislav
On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo wrote:
> OH>> The wrong thing is that they are getting money for programs that
> OH>> volunteers did _FOR FREE_, on their own time. instead of giving
> OH>> the money for the volunteers I'm giving it to the company who
> OH>> packed this and made some nice setup program ? no thanks. they
> OH>> should release the d/l version while selling it, imo.
> That's utter bull. SuSE has a bunch of software written by paid SuSE
> employees. It also does all the packaging, testing and QA for you. And
> believe me, this requires a hell of a lot of time (read: money in
> salaries, office rentals, equipment and inrfastructure). You don't like
> it, try downloading all the packages you've got with SuSE from source,
> compiling them and getting them right. Try this on 50 machines now. You
> liked it? Well, you just saved $30 (or how much is it). If the time you
> wasted on this is worth less than $30, I'm sorry for you.
SuSE employees are programming a bunch of software. What I said is, that
there are people such as Koshelev Maxim (Downloader for X's author)
who build programs at least as big as all the suse programs (yast + some
bash scripts. It's not a 'bunch' of software imo), and get _NOTHING_. He
works pretty hard, you can compare his program to yast (just counted,
about 22,000 lines of code), and ofcourse that he is just an example of
lots of other people. I gave him for example, because of what he wrote in
his 'TROUBLES' file:
====
3.I need a sponsor because I have no money for dialup connection :(
(currently I have free connection at one of my job but it cannot
be free forever)
====
This makes me think- why would suse get this money for others' softwares
too ? Think about it in a simple way- the company sells an operation
system which includes tons of software, and gets money for this, just as
microsoft get their money for their os + the additional software.
the only different thing is that 99% of these additional softwares are not
made by them, and were made for free by volunteers.
Cya,
Oren.
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