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Re: ircII and Hebrew
On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, David Brauman wrote:
> ircII simply doesn't work that well with hebrew.
>
> Even after "/set EIGHT_BIT_CHARACTERS ON" and "/set TRANSLATION LATIN_1"
> it ofcourse types backwards and, you guessed it, displays other people's
> hebrew wrong (backwards. Windows stuff.)
define 'wrong' - there's no standard for hebrew on IRC yet.
> Before I go on and write a script to fix this, or even modify the client,
> is there any ready-made solution?
1. how exactly do you type in hebrew letters? as far as i know, this
requires a change in the translation tables of ircII so it'll send
hebrew chars whenever you type out in hebrew mode.
2. about a year and a half (or 2) ago i wrote some hebrew patch for ircII
(it was then version 2.2.9, now it's for version 2.8.2), and despite
some seemingly-restrictions in the license, i'm tempted to put the
whole modified source up for d/l from our system (hopefully they
changed the license - in 2.2.9 it was NOT a GNU license...). it
includes modified translation tables, a few commands in hebrew (and
on-line help in hebrew for them), typing english words in the correct
direction during a hebrew sentence typing (but NOT in a general
mechanism), and 'proper' displaying of hebrew text sent via hebrew irc
clients (proper - just reversing the whole line, not a true logical to
visual translation), and possibly few other things.
if anyone wants to see BAD coding style - go ahead and look at those
hacks (actually, look at the complete ircII codying style - it commites
VERY inefficient buffer writes, causes too many system calls to be
sent, and likewise. - try to strace it once (well, it SEEMS to have
improved during since the 2.2.9 version).
3. snunit's system change was (as far as i know from itzik) a soruce-code
change as well. also, they have more then one hebrew mode in their
change, that affects the alignment of the text. itzik said something to
the effect that 'he solved the implicit / explicit translation
problem', thought i don't know if he solved it the true way, or using
the fake lazy method choo used.
in any case, i'll attach here (as MIME attachments) two translation
tables, named ENGHEB224 (for unix users), and ENGHEB128 (for messy dos
users) that may be used to VIEW hebrew properly. DON'T shout 'no' since:
1. it's a bit too late to stop the snowball.
2. very small attachments. surely smaller then the combined 'noise'
regarding the amuta.
guy
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