Umm, sorry, I meant ist should be 0600 root.shadow , and not 0640 root.shadow. My mistake. Anyway, I installed the new shadow_passwd suite, (1.1), it has everything(almost) in it. It has some config probs, but all in all works ok. --Ariel +---------------------------------------------------------+ | Ariel Biener | | e-mail: ariel@post.tau.ac.il Work ph: 03-6406086 | +---------------------------------------------------------+