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RE: Meeting with Kinetica (was:Meeting and other things)



Hello all!

Second reply and LOTS of corrections ... too many.
maybe we should have gone through the summary before being posted - 
or maybe it was because Erez was writing and Shai actually had 
posted this message? ;)

Anyway, corrections are found in the body of the message.

Thanks, Aviv.

--- On Sun, 16 Jun 1996 16:05:52 +0300 (IDT)  Shay Rojansky 
<roji@cs.huji.ac.il> wrote:

>Hi.
>
>I have some things to fill you guys in on. Sorry I didn't write 
earlier,
>but the bagruyot are ganging up on me here.
>
>About two weeks ago (can't recall the specific date), Amos Shapira, 

Ira 
>Abramov, Erez Strauss and myself met with three representatives 
from
>a new company called Kinematica. This is not a very complete 
summary,
>so if anyone wants to add - please do.

#### The name is Kinetica Internetting Solutions.

>
>Present from the company were Meir Miesnik, Aviv Zigel and Rani 
Pinchuk.
>Rani is the person that originally wrote me requesting the meeting.

#### The participants from Kinetica's side were -
  Guy Miasnik, Aviv Siegel, Rani Pinchuk

>
>Kinematica is a very new company. It deals with Internet 
technology,
>and two projects mentioned as examples are Internizing Globes (the 
newspaper)
>and Lamda (www.lamda.org.il). Both Rani Pinchuk and another guy 
there
>are Linux-il members (Sorry, I forgot), and have been using Linux 
>successfully as a development environment.

### No, we were NOT participating in Globes going on the internet, 
and never said we had. This also replies another comment of Eli 
Marmor - you are right, many claim to be part of that project, we 
don't.
We took a major part in the developing the Lamda Community site (the 
URL was correct :) and still continue this effort, together with the 
Learning Network Laboratory of Tel Aviv University. We are also 
developing a major scale project of some commercial firm in Israel, 
and are involved in several other projects, covering internet and 
intranet systems, as well as developing generic internet technology.

#### Rani Pinchuk, and myself (Aviv) are members of the linux-il for 
almost a year and are actively using Linux for almost two years. In 
Kinetica, we see Linux as a major platform for developing our 
systems and technology, among other platforms and OSs.

>
>After introductions, the four Linux-il members described their 
group,
>its spirit, and its needs. The points raised were similar to the
>ones in the Sela group:
>
>* Public relations
>* FTP site
>* Web site
>* Place to hold meetings
>* Support for shows
>* Official status (for books, CDs..)
>
>After that the members talked with the Kinematica staff about 
various
>subjects. Various conclusions:
>
>* As Kinematica is a young firm, large amounts of money (as 
required) cannot
>  be donated.
>
>* Kinematica can provide a place for meetings, as long as not too 
many
>  people attend (size of room) and for about 4 times a year.
>
>However, the subject most discussed and apparently the most 
important
>one (with relation to Kinematica) is the idea of going official. 
The
>general message was that we should turn into an Amuta, as this 
would
>provide several benefits:
>
>* People would look at us more seriously.
>* We would be able to talk with other companies (bookstores, CDs).
>* It would create just a little more order (not too much, I might 
emphasize).
>
>Numerous other arguments were given, which I do not want to raise, 
since
>I think this is an issue we should all discuss on the list.

#### As I wrote in a previous posting, we will provide in the 
following days some general description of what is an Amuta, etc. I 
suppose it will start some interesting threads.

>
>On Kinematica's side, the emphasis they had wa in the pool of 
people and
>ideas the group represents. This is contrary to Sela, which 
explicitly
>talked about manpower. Kinematica is less interested in this, and 
more
>in technological ideas and notions that might be developed.

#### I must add one more thing: we in Kinetica do USE Linux. We do 
not sell Linux. We, as part of the global Linux users group, think 
that this OS should be promoted, and would like to help this effort, 
as much as we can (considering us being a young company).
We don't see the linux-il as a pool of manpower (we could already 
use that, being members of the list ourselves), but rather as a 
heterogeneous group of young and motivated people, which all share 
usage or interest in a specific OS and the ideas it encompasses.

At the same time, we do look for ideas and opportunities which might 
evolve from this list - as a group or from its individuals. These 
might come from the group, or from its individuals, as well as from 
Kinetica; we see these ideas and opportunities for cooperation as a 
side-effects and not as the base for the affiliation of Linux-il and 
Kinetica.

>
>Evgeny, please post this on plasma-gate. Thanks.
>
>Shay Rojansky
>
>--
>Shay Rojansky, roji@cs.huji.ac.il                 Finger for PGP 
public key
>

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