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Re: Mailpush automatic notification



On 26 Nov 1998, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:


 IMHO, we could reject all incoming mail from mailpush.com at linux.org.il
mail server.

--Ariel

> tuvia beker <becket@cc.huji.ac.il> writes:
> 
> > On Wed, 25 Nov 1998, mailpush support wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Tuvia Beker
> > >
> > > Thank you for your note.
> > > Mailpush Users have an option to activate or deactivate auto-confirm for
> > > their e-mail notification.
> > > It is fully under their hands whether to activate it or to stop it.
> > > If you feel uncomfortable because of that you can alwyas apply the
> > > spcific user and ask him to unable this feature.
> > > We dont consider it a SPAM but a way to inform you that the recipient
> > > recieved the e-mail (even big and honored internet providers in israel
> > > suggest such feature).
> >
> > Dear Ariel,
> >
> > I'm well aware of your company policy.
> > Whether you admit it or not, this is bold SPAMming. This 'feature' should
> > not be available AT ALL, as it is a nuisance to the general public.
> > Just to give you a clear example: I'm subscribed to several mailing lists
> > with an average size of about 300 members. Suppose 100 people in such a
> > list aremailpush subscribers, and 50 out of those chose to enable your
> > 'special feature'. Now whenever I send email to the list I will receive 50
> > unsolicited 'replies' from people I do not even know.
> 
> Actually, quite a bit more. Recently I got 4 (!) notifications from
> support@mailpush.com from the _same_ person after sending one message
> to one mailing list. To re-iterate, I got 4 completely useless and
> annoying messages because 1 (!) subscriber to a mailing list used the
> "feature".
> 
> Since then I push all mail with support@mailpush.com in the "Reply-To"
> field into /dev/null, but that is not a full solution since bandwidth
> is still being wasted.
> 
> ATTENTION MAILPUSH -- A SUGGESTION FOLLOWS:
> 
> Admittedly, anyone can set up such automatic notification on one's own
> computer, for instance with the "vacation" program, and one might have
> a good reason for that. However, and this is something Mailpush must
> take into account, "vacation" (or at least its newer versions) does
> not send notifications of messages that have "Precedence:" set to
> "bulk", "junk", or "list". So the problem with the "feature" in
> question is not so much its existence as its implementation. Making
> the software ignore messages based on the "Precedence:" field would
> solve the problem for mailing list postings. Beyond that, anyone can
> flame any particular user who chooses to use notification without a
> good reason.
> 
> --
> Oleg Goldshmidt        goldshmt@netvision.net.il   
> BLOOMBERG L.P. (BFM)   oleg@bfr.co.il
> 

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