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Re: The Palo Alto Tea Party




On Sat, 14 Nov 1998, Nahum Greenberg wrote:

> > Microsoft organize any open events here at all? I haven't heard of any
> 
> I have heard that there was some event at the Hashalom mall (which is
> next to PF1). It was a launch of (Hebrew?) Win '98, I think.

well, if I was in Israel, I would have loved to stay with "my finger on
the pulse" for such events, the LUG here is so different than in Israel.

> > but OTOH I have nowhere to hear from either. The other problem is the
> > CDs. We either need PF1 to supply them somehow (which is difficult
> 
> The PF1 will find a way to support the proposed Linux event. Although it
> would be immensely easier for PF1 to get you the RedHat CD's, if the
> event will be related with an academic institution and/OR will involve
> distribution of up to a thousand CD's. Economy of scale, so to speak.

What is the situation in academic sites in Israel these days? Is Netware
still around? In the US, every time Microsoft signs a big agreement with a
famous university, or worse, as lately, with the state of texas' board of
education and the UC network in California, there is always a wave of
protests from students' homepages, through OSS, Linux and antimicrosoft
sites. Is stuff like that happening in Israel? and if so, who is
protesting?

> > since they will probably be willing to sponsor events in which they
> > get at least some exposure themselves as a consequence) or we need to
> 
> Talk to the PF1. Until you do, you'll never know for sure what makes it
> tick. 
> 

"The PF1"? is it some holy entity? :-)

Yes, PF1 and other companies could help, if there was enough action to go
around, but in Israel the LUG hasn't reached critical mass. here in the
San Francisco bay area, there are 3 different LUGs, and 3-4 Unix or Linux
related events a week. SVLUG got lots of interesting speakers this year:
Linus Torvalds, Eric Alman, Larry Wall, Paul Vixie, Dave Miller, Phil
Hughes, and next month they got Richard Stallman himself. hosting
companies are Cisco and Netscape. once a month there is also a meeting of
BALUG up in the city, this week it's Corel Netwinder people demonstrating
Beowulf networking, in the Past meetings I've attended, interesting
lectures were givven by members of the group (doesn't always have to be
the original/famous author of the software in question). Installation
parties happen at varous parts of the Bay area 3 (three!) times a month,
some for newbies, but most are actually gurus exchanging config ideas,
webexperts learning Fax servers from others, Xwin Gurus echanging ideas
with file service experts, etc. etc.

If linux-il would have done 10% of that, I would have been satisfied, but
frankly, the only events we organize 2-3 times a year are not marked by
great activism, I guess it's just not the critical mass yet... I know that
I, for one, will try to organize lectures and such when I come back
(dinners and their arrangments are frankly a pain in the /dev/out to plan,
and don't have much usefull effect). I'm willing to teach about Samba, and
would love another guy to teach me back about X Gnome, and I'm sure lots
of people out there are interested to hear about mod_perl and PHP/3.

what do you say, guys?

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