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Re: Eli Marmor's request to move discussions to the phone (was: RE: Hebrew support (was information))
- To: "'linux-il'" <linux-il@linux.org.il>
- Subject: Re: Eli Marmor's request to move discussions to the phone (was: RE: Hebrew support (was information))
- From: Eli Marmor <marmor@elmar.co.il>
- Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 22:45:56 +0300
- Delivered-To: linuxil-linux-il@linux.org.il
- Organization: El-Mar Software Ltd.
- References: <01BDBC77.9D2ACD40@i0-26.ta5.actcom.co.il>
- Reply-To: Eli Marmor <marmor@elmar.co.il>
- Sender: owner-linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
Omer Zak wrote:
>
> > Please use the PHONE! Call me anytime you want, even in the middle
> > of the night (except for Shabbat). My cellular is open almost all
> > the time (050-237338).
>
> Unfortunately, the phone is inaccessible to deaf persons.
The permission that I gave Ira to use e-mail instead of phone
(because he is in America) is relevant for you too, of course
(although I had once a phone talk with a cool professor from the
technion; It was very strange, I must admit, but we understood
each other :-)
Omer, you may be surprised, but when I wrote (in the previous
message) the note regarding to Ira, I thought about YOU. But I
didn't know how to write it without causing some NON-deafs among
Linux-il subscribers to reply negatively (I was afraid somebody
would think it was not politically correct...).
Of course, what I wrote about my e-mail (that it is
<marmor@elmar.co.il> and not <linux-il@linux.org.il>) is relevant
for you too. If you would use it, you could avoid the following
public discussion about "my secretary":
> > To phrase a long e-mail in English, I need, say, 30 minutes. To say
> > it in Hebrew I need less than 1 minute (I am talking fast). The list
> > have a delay of about 1 hour. For an evarage discussion of 10
> > iterations (I write something #1, you answer #2, I answer #3, and so
> > on till #10), 3-5 days are needed, but only 3-4 minutes on phone. I
> > know that some people here have spare time, but I use the e-mail
> > exactly for what it was invented for (and I use it heavilly!). Not
> > for arguments or religious wars.
>
> Then use your secretary (you have one in your business, right?).
I don't have. Please read again one of my previous messages. Frodo
wrote about his tryings to give BiDi support to something, and that
it is much harder than it looks, plus details of various
difficulties. I replied:
Eli> Thank you, Frodo, for telling everybody about these difficulties.
Eli> People, LEARN what he writes. This work is one of the most tough I
Eli> ever met. I had a big hope that Motif 2.1 will free me to more
Eli> interesting developments (for example, implementing the patents I
Eli> registered, and/or promoting my start-up business), but I was very
Eli> disappointed to find out that all of these "Hebrew supports" are
Eli> only a big disaster and that I must continue to be the only one to
Eli> help and answer the questions and problems of hundreds in Israel.
Eli> I could be a rich man if I wouldn't stuck with that ugly business,
Eli> but so many companies and organizations are based on my stuff and
Eli> there is nobody else to support them. I don't want anybody to
Eli> regret for choosing UNIX, and I'll do my best to continue the good
Eli> support.
So, instead of doing these attractive and interesting business, I am
stuck with the Hebrew, and really cannot permit myself a secretary.
> And reply only when you need to correct wrong statements about
> your business. Or have your secretary write a FAQ and anytime
> someone says something incorrect about you, ask your secretary
> to remind the liar where he can find the FAQ.
Again, no secretary. You may say that my prices are too low, and that
by charging real prices I could have enough income to have a
secretary, and even that an ex-competitor of me had a price higher by
3,000% than me (I cannot give more details, but some subscribers here
know the full details, including Matan, who I talked with, yesterday,
about that), but even these cheap prices, which are considered VERY
low by everybody in the commercial market, may cause some subscribers
here to assasinate me ;-)
So sorry, I'll keep my prices low, although it will prevent me from
having a secretary (as well as some much more critical things for my
business which I still lack). The only help that you can give me, is
to save my time and not forcing me to reply so many times.
Thanks in advance,
--
Eli Marmor