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Re: linux X-serving MS applications



There are several working solution today to export NT displays to X
servers (and other clients).
All of these solution require a SPECIALLY modified version of the NT
kernel - it is not a service or application running on the NT but a
re-vamped NT kernel.
These option are here for quite some time. As a matter of fact I once
used my trusty Linux XFree server to use Word from a Cytrix NT server
over the internet.

MS has bought out (after a long fight) the Cytrix solution, and
announced they plan to integrate it into NT 5.0.
A friend which examined the beta says it is not really usable at this
time but that the Cytrix solution itself is quite good.
I know Scitex (and probably other companies) are using this already to
enable Unix users to use their mail on (gasp...) M$ outlook. (Don't
ask... I don't want to even think about it :-(

Since what is required is a modified NT kernel don't expect to be
running any Hebrew applications any time soon.

As a matter of fact don't expect to be running Hebrew applications on
any Windows any time soon - the hebrew version (OSR1) of Win95 is more
then 2.5 years old and we (as in Israel) are the only one using it in
the world AFAIK - most of the "civilized" world has moved long ago to
OSR2 (including Japan, Eastern Europe etc)
M$ has no plans to make a Hebrew version of OSR2 and the Hebrew version
of Win98 (code name Memphis) is on the "maybe" of the todo list... So
much for trusting a "big player" for continue to support it's products.

PS. M$ calls this "new technology" -  "Win terminals". I wonder where
they found that name? ... ;-_)

PS/2. Following the example of whoever it was that broke into the
knesset site and expressed his political views about our president
somebody should break to the IDF site http://www.idf.il and post a firm
disagreement that the special "pikood ha oref" site is written (the only
part of the site!!!) only is Microsoft Hebrew, that is - completely
incomprehensible for any one not using the specific hebrew versions of
the Microsoft OS - <Sarcasm> imagine the poor Linux hacker dying of gas
poising because he could not read the important instruction on the
"pikood ha oref" site </Sarcasm>

Gilad.


Tuvik Beker wrote:
> 
> A picture in the last issue of the LJ drew my attention. On page 69 (in
> the 'Linux means business' section) there is a screenshot of a
> linux-based X Terminal, and among the other applications there is a Word
> window, run on an NT server. In the article they briefly mention the use
> of an 'NCD Wincenter Multiuser NT server' that runs various MS office
> applications, served by the linux X Terminals.
> This seems to be an ideal solutions for networked environments that wish
> to work woth linux, and yet keep working with various MS based
> applications.
> 
> Since I'm blissfully ignorant when it comes to MS-world, I have a few
> questions:
> 1. What does it take to have Windows export it's display to an Xterm? Is
> it a built-in capability in NT, or something added by a third party
> solution? (What is 'NCD Wincenter Multiuser NT server', by the way?!).
> 2. Is that capability unique to NT, or is there a similar capability for
> Win95?
> 3. Will it be possible to have the same capability for hebrew
> applications?! What should be done in order for that to work?
> 
> I'll be grateful for any information.
> 
> Tuvik
> 
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