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Re: USENIX Association Upcoming Events (fwd)



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>Nope. But those are *Linux-oriented* companies. If they were just
>companies providing server solutions, I am not sure they'd push Linux
>that hard.
Don't understand the point. Surely, if Sun don't make Solaris, it won't
push it ;) Are you to say that server-solutions companies don't offer
Linux? Take Linux Journal and look at advertisements... 
>> That's exaclty my point. If you make hardware that can run with a number
>> of OSes, there is no reason to refuse some... Unless you are paid
>> **really** big bucks just for refusal. And that would be criminal.

>Let me give you one example - the Oracle database. There is quite a
When I talked to Oracle people here in Israel (John Bryce) and asked them
what Unix flavours they support, they answered "all of them". I asked:
"BSDI"? (I knew what's state with Linux). They answered "what's that?"...
Seems they (sales-droids) are not over-educated... They think "all of
unix" is AIX, HP-UX,DUNIX and Solaris...
>pressure from Linux community to make Oracle Corp. port it's database
>to Linux. There is no problem with would-be piracy: Oracle is already
>available on Linux/FreeBSD through the iBCS support. There are serious
>people around which would buy it. But still, there is no Oracle for
>Linux!!!
Well, not much of a conspiracy. Look at this:
=========== Quote =========
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From: "web-mktg.us.oracle.com" <WEB-MKTG@us.oracle.com>
Subject: Fwd: Fwd: Product or Platform Availability

Dear <Name snipped - F.>,   
  
Oracle has no plans to support the Linux platform.  Linux is fully 
customizable, creating too many problems for Oracle from a technical
support perspective.  Until there is a standards organization established for
Linux, Oracle is unlikely to support this particular platform.  
 
  
  
Regards,  
  
web-mktg@us.oracle.com  
Oracle Web Marketing  

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found on search for the subject, on linux.advocacy. Seems that as far as
RedHat or Caldera or any other body gain recognition as Linux commercial
vendor, Oracle will do port. And as I've read on linux-kernel, they do
like to make ports, if pointy-haired ones make a decision.
BTW, Oracle has in-house port, AFAIK, but doesn't release it. It just
waits for official Linux support body, to direct all "Oracle doen't work"
calls to them ;)) Search newsgroups for the topic, it's interesting.

>Try asking yourself "qui prodest?" I don't want to guess, but it
Clearly. For Adabas, QDDB, etc. who sell their products on Linux,
while Oracle is loosing money ;)
>really looks like the big OS vendors, like Sun, SCO, HP etc are
>pressing Oracle to slow down Linux development.
>
See above. I'm sure they don't. And why would Oracle hear them? How
exactly can Sun put pressure on Oracle? Don't be more paranoid that your
security settings require ;))
As a bottom line, I expect Oracle on Linux to appear in 2 years...  
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