EM>> I don't know what is the mean in the case of a directory (I think EM>> there is no mean). Surely that is. SGID on a directory means that all files that are created in the directory are owned by this group. -- frodo@sharat.co.il \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than Morgul-spells phone +972-2-6245112 /\ JRRT LotR. http://sharat.co.il/frodo/ whois:!SM8333