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Re: M$ IL latest craze
On Sun, 30 May 1999, Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
This is becoming a moral debate, it's place is not on this list. And about
your claims, they are all fine excuses, and ways to avoid questions on
moral issues. If you feel ok with it, just go on and take shortcuts like
everyone else around you.
--Ariel
> On Sun, 30 May 1999, Ariel Biener wrote:
>
> > I beg your pardon. If you cannot afford buying software, make your own.
> > Would you go and steal from a shop using the "I am not as wealthy as some
> > rich Arab, so I am allowed to steal" excuse ?
>
> There are cases when the "I am not wealthy enough so I am allowed
> to steal" make sense.
>
> > Pirating software is downright stealing. The fact Israelies don't see it
>
> There is no such thing as pirating software (unless you raid the ship that
> ships all those boxes), and using software without proper license is not
> stealing, it is copyright violation.
>
> > that way, and they pirate software, don't pay for shareware, and in
> > general act like a bunch of worthless scums when it comes to software is
> > downright disgusting to me, and if some software pirates would have been
> > put behind bars, because they can't pay a XX million dollars lawsuit of
> > Microsoft against them, then maybe the message would pass through.
>
> I think sending people to prison because they can't pay a debt is not
> something that a civilized country should do. Luckily, most judges and MKs
> in israel agree about this.
>
> > Of course that if all this could have been passed through education from
> > the early age, i.e., respecting other'sproperty, and being honest and not
> > trying to look for shortcuts everywhere, the reality in which we live
> > (regarding software piracy of course) would have been totally different.
>
> How is a CD I paid for "other's property"?
>
> You seem to be mixingup a legal issue with a moral one. It is indeed
> against the law to copy something without permission, but why is it
> immoral? Why let a law (that says that whenever you run a program, you
> actually copy it - from disk to ram) decide on your morals? Are vehemently
> opposed to speeding, parking on blue-white without parking ticket, and
> encrypting without security ministry authorization as well?
>
>
>
> --
> Matan Ziv-Av matan@svgalib.org
>
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