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Re: HUJI - status
On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Nathan Fain wrote:
> This issue may be dead. But I don't know if it should be or not (going to
> guess "not")...
no, it shouldn't. you only need to start the snowball rolling...
> The problems I see for starting such on event are as follows (in order of
> difficulty):
> 1) Someone(s) getting the courage to go to the professors and/or
> "hackers" and begging them to give a lecture.
> 2) Someone(s) asking for the space in which to hold the meetings.
this is the hard part, since all the LUG's people that have contact in
HUJI seem to have vanished (shay, ariel, amos, marc, harvey). however,
there might still be people on this list that have contact there (vadik
might be handy here, if he's got the will, or perhaps someone else?).
however, lecturers should come from the list, since preparing a lecture is
a time-consuming operation (just as an example, i tend to spend 6-10 hours
preparing a lecture on a topic i've already got material about, and much
more then this preparing a lecture on a topic i need to learn about).
> 3) Creating a line-up for the next few lectures and a list of possible
> people to give lectures and their titles.
this is crucial for continuity. the best option is if someone's willing to
work as the 'default route' when there are no other lecturers.
we could also probably recycle some material that comes from other
lectures (i.e. Haifux's lectures slides are mostly available). since these
are more local-area clubs, giving the same lecture in more then one club
is a good thing (the audiance is different).
> 4) getting the word out.
this is _very_ easy, once you've got 1-3. not necessarily easy to also get
people to _come_ to the meetings, however... any PR specialist here? :)
> When it comes to #4 you can call me your laggy (meaning, I'll print
> fliers and spread the word). For the rest, a few people should start
> looking into it, probably people from huji but it doesn't really matter.
>
> Just to throw out an idea... what about holding a "Intro to Linux"
> lecture. Something that cuts through the "World Domination" and Linux
> media slogan bs and strait to what makes Linux great, where it is lacking
> and what steps the development community are taking to change that. 1h
> lecture and 1h Q&A?
the question is also - which audiance you're targeting. is this supposed
to be a club for users, and thus discuss user-level issues, or you're
targeting programmers? administrator wanna-bes ? is it mostly for
students, or for people who're actively working in the field?
> Such a lecture would give those organizing it a chance to see how
> interested people really are and to get the jitters of organizing such an
> even out of their system.
it could also be missleading - we had a tramendous fall in the number of
people between the first lecture and the second one. thus, only after a
few lectures you get an idea of the actual audiance size.
> If someone in Jerusalem doesn't take the mic and saythey will give such
> a lecture then I wonder if we could get some help from the Haifa group
> for this one lecture (as I believe after it is done people in Jerusalem
> will be more comfortable with the idea).
if the target for such a club is programmers and other technical folks,
i'm willing to give the same lecture as the one that begun Haifux's
meetings, _on a one time basis_. you still got points 2 and 3 to cover,
(That is a room with slides, and a solution to the continuity problem).
guy
"For world domination - press 1,
or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy
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