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RH is much more up to date then Debian.



A week ago someone asked here about Debain lack of some major up to date 
versions of important packages.
Attached is a reply of one Debian developer to that issue + his opinion about 
other matters that we are interested in.

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From: Remco van de Meent <remco@debian.org>
To: Peter Paluch <peterp@frcatel.utc.sk>
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Subject: Re: XFree86 is 3.3.3.
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Peter Paluch wrote:
> 1.) There is not even one (!) word processor which is able to export the
> documents in MS Office97 format and is working properly with Slovak locale
> in XWin.

You don't need to blame, nor Debian, nor Linux in general, that M$Office is
being used at your office. If they want you to use M$Office (and apparently,
they do), then blame your employer if you don't agree with him.

This is nothing personal, but I see people pointing to that so-called
disadvantage of the products current available on Linux platforms, but
they're pointing to the wrong people. If someone wants to have a M$Office
compatible thing on Linux, go out and write it. Don't blame others for not
writing it.

> 2.) I can't use TeX or similar because in that PC magazine they're using
> just MS products.

See above.

> 3.) I was unable to set up Slovak keyboard properly. I downloaded XWin
> 3.3.3. sources and compiled it and it worked with the same settings and same
> keyboard flawlessly!
> 
> A friend of mine, using RedHat 5.2, laughed at me when I told him that we in
> Debian do not have even 3.3.3 when there is 3.3.3.1 out! I felt that time
> very uncomfortable.

There is no `competition' between RedHat and Debian on this point. If you
feel better having the latest versions of software available, without caring
about other things, I don't think Debian will suffice for you. Debian
strives after other matters, like stability and security. I don't want to
start another holy war, but Debian and RedHat just differ from each other on
some points.

> So until XWin 3.3.3.x appears in Debian distribution East-Europeans will
> have big problems getting their international support and locales working in
> XWin and I think it is a big pitty. I am, truly said, angry about it. Just
> explaining my feelings, please do not take it as offence. I simply can't
> stand the feeling that Linux can't do something that Windows can.
> 
> I understand it is not so easy to administer and package such huge thing as
> XWindow, however, this disfunctionality should be at least treated as bug.

It is not a bug in 3.3.2, it is a feature in 3.3.3. So I don't agree with
you. But I *do* see your point, and I'm sorry for you that it most likely
won't be resolved in the upcoming (2.1, slink) Debian release.

I don't know if your problem will be resolved if you put the latest X11
server (3.3.3.1) in place of your current X11 server, I doubt it. I think
the 'bug' is in some library.

You might want to checkout the 3.3.3.x X11 Debian packages when they are
available for testing in the `potato' Debian archive.


Regards,
 -Remco


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