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Re: wrote hebrew general FAQ



Hi
First of all: Keep up the good work!

Thanks for putting the text and html copies. (which are currently at
http://pluto.spaceports.com/~rc/linux/faq.html and
http://pluto.spaceports.com/~rc/linux/faq.txt). I was able to read the
logical hebrew with netscape thanks to Matan Zivav's biditext
(http://www.cs.bgu.ac.il/~zivav/hebrew/ ).

As for comments: Seems to be toomany of them. Don't give up...

format:
For those who fear a newbie won't be able to read this Hebrew on his/her
computer, and thus this better be in English: What if that person won't
read English? Hebrew documentation is a must. This document is indeed a
step in the right direction.

I agree that a postscript copy would be very handy as well, because it can
be easily produced from a word document and canbe viewed with any
ghostscript front-end, which is availllble on almost any distro [Am I
right?].
Does anyone know of a *simple* way to produce visual html from word docs?

As for the possibility of writing this in Hebrew LaTeX: Can anyone comment
as for if this can be done *easily enough*? Is there any decent latex2html
that can produce decent html from it?

One concideration is that there is a good chance that this document will
be viewed in a web browser, and thus an html copy with working linkes
would make the newbie's life easier, until he/she understands how to
cut&paste (and even afterwards).

[now that I see Eli's suggestion to use CAWABANGA - what format do you
need as the source: logical hebrew html? Is the one produced by word OK?]

content:
One thing missing is subject of Hebrew. One possible place to start from
is:
http://www2.iol.co.il/communities/Linux/include/articles/21509.asp
[list: if anything there is incorrect - could you please correct it?]
And, of course, the Hebrew-HOWTO [Does anybody want to try to update it?].
some proposed questions:
* How can I get Hebrew fonts in X? [install hebrew type-1 fonts/install
hebrew ttf fonts]
* How can I get Hebrew fonts with gnome/kde? [see previous question]
* How can I write Hebrew in X: [kikbd, xkb, xmodmap, copy&paste from an
app with hebrew support - hebgtk'ed editor, vim, emacs(?), anything else?]
* Is there such thing as Hebrew wordprocessing?
* Hebrew support for console [list: Why is the bogus hebrew keymap from
console-tools still there? Also - is there any hebrew console font which
supports line drawing chars?]
* anything else?

Can anyone here is answer these some of these questions?

Other content issues:
[There seems to be many of those. Maybe there is a more uptodate copy of
the original document,or anything similar, on which youu could base it?]

* I thinka link to the original document would be nice. The link to
http://warp.efnet.org/linux/ seems to be broken.
* There is almost no mention of gnome/kde in the document. Newbies today
tend to think that they work under gnome/kde (and not under 
linux/X/whatever), thereforre a question such as "does linux support X
windows" should be probably be replaced with something about aaa
windowing environmrent (any better term?).
* You should try to use more English terms. For instance: It took me a
while to figure what you mean when you mentioned to the user "ruth" [in
hebrew]. Until there is a formal/used translation of the term "root" there
is no point of transcripting it in Hebrew. In any case - since most of
the documentation is in English - you should mention every term in English
at least once.
* It is worth mentioning some more newbie-oriented distros, such as
Caldera and Mandrake.
* explain the concept of mount. The fact that you have to mount (and
unmount) even a floppy or a CD is far from intuitive for anyone with
dos/windows experince.
* as for software that exists on linux: think more newbie-oriented. Emacs
and gcc don't mean much to a newbie. Mention gnome, kde, netscape,
WordPerfect,Gimp. There are also many games now avilble for linux.
A place in which Linux excels is the availbility of server software. There
are many power [linux newbie] users who may be amazed by the fact that
they get an industrial-strengh web/ftp/whatever server with a standard
linux distro.
* Linux is also good for someone who want to know his/her computer better.
Again - I believe that there are many of those.
* Maybe mention that Linux is ideal for a small web/file/print server
* Mention the fact that [with very simple configuration modifications]
linux can not be nocked-out from the 'net by any script-diddie as easily
as win9x can.
* Add links: any software you mentioned should be linked to a page with
more information (the software's homepage, prefferablly). When you mention
buying a CD - link to cheapbytes et al.
* I believe that there is an Israeli copy of LDP somewhere on HUJI
* As for www.linux.org.il as a source of information: I'm still
optimnistic...
* You don't have to reparitition to install linux: there are some
full-scale distros that can be installed on a dos partition: phatlinux,
armedlinux, winlinx2000 [anyone tried Mandrake's lnx4win?].
Furthermore - there are some full-enough linux mini-distros that
actually can be downloaded (size-wise) from the internet. LoopLinux
(formly DosLinux) comes to mind. Any other suggestions?
* As for sources of software: linuxberg has a couple of israeli mirros
(see http://www.linuxberg.com). You should also mention freshmeat
(http://freshmeat.net). Both are Good indices. Any others?
(maybe DaveCentral, LinuxApps).
* DosEMU is nice, but today users need windows emualtors. Mention wine
and vmware (http://www.vmware.com - not free, though).
* As for dos connectivity - mtools are worth mentioning. They would be
much more intuitive for a dos user.
* Are linuxcof/yast/lizard worth mentioning?

some factual correction:
* Linux is not only for "386,486, 586". I think you can now say that linux
can run on just about any computer, including PCs and Macs, and just about
any other computer type.
* A full RH installation nowadays is >1GB. I believe that other distros
"cost' more disk space.
* I think it is preffered to mount dos parititions and such under /mnt
* about setting the hardware clock - on RH you have hwclock. Does it
exist on other distros? anything similar?

Tzafrir Cohen
mailto:tzafrir@technion.ac.il
http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir

On Wed, 1 Jan 1997, Moran wrote:

> hi,
> i wrote hebrew general FAQ for newbies linux.
> i tryed answer some of the most asked questions.
> any feedback would be welcomed.
> its only the begining i guess so if you have questions/corrections you think i should add please let me know.
> 
> currently only in word format at least till version 1.0 
> 
> can be found at:
> http://pluto.spaceports.com/~rc/linux
> 
> 
>           Moran Zavdi
> Warp Security Response Team.
>       moran@sasa.org.il
> 






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