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[Fwd: Re: Please, put a fscking bullet in my head!]
Imagine my surprise when I came upon the article quoted below on
alt.sysadmin.recovery.
I've always thought that it was quite distasteful of the Hebrew University's
sysadmins to quote user emails they receive on asr to mock them, but that can
probably be attributed to the basic problem I have with asr.
Sadly, I think this is a different case; the closed list thread was
essentially a technical discussion, and could have been carried out as such,
if the participants were willing to listen to each other and had some respect
for each other.
Unfortunately, considering Vadim's attitude displayed below, that's not going
to happen is it?
So, whatever.
-------- Original Message --------
[Note: Because Vadim has a copyright on his news postings, I couldn't simply
forward his article here. You also can't look it up on Dejanews, since he
uses the X-No-Archive: header. Instead, I chose to quote the relevant parts
here; Vadim, consider this a follow-up. You're all encouraged to go read
article <7drft2$fc$1@news.huji.ac.il> on alt.sysadmin.recovery for the
complete message.]
> From: Vadim Vygonets <vadik@trilok.cs.huji.ac.il>
> Newsgroups: alt.sysadmin.recovery
> Subject: Re: Please, put a fscking bullet in my head!
> Date: 30 Mar 1999 21:32:18 GMT
>
>
[stuff deleted]
>
> We host the Israeli Linux mailing list. Now, when I decided to
> change our mailing list software, and one of the lists I should
> move is, indeed, linux-il.
>
> I announced about the upcoming change to the list, and while we
> discussed how they want me to set up digests, one of the
> old-timers among them said,
>
> | > Another suggestion: make submissions allowed only to the list subscribers.
>
> For some reason, my predcessor hasn't done it. To which I
> replied,
>
> | Of course I'll do it.
>
> This is the only true way to set up a mailing list, isn't it?
> But then, I realized that the clue level of this list has
> dropped. It struck me when somebody said:
>
> | Please reconsider. Spam does suck, but there are other methods of
> | dealing with it, and this prevents several common configurations
> | from using the list.
>
> When I asked what these common configurations are, they started
> to complain that some of them use multiple mailboxes based on the
> suffix after username, others read mail both from home and from
> work, and when asked why the hell the clever Linux hackers can't
> do what people on every other mailing lists can do (I think that
> all, or at least most of the lists I'm subscribed to don't allow
> non-subscribers to post), namely change the From: header, they
> whined that they post from Nutscrape and for other lists, they
> must remember to change the header (manually, lusers).
>
> Shit! Lusers everywhere. They even populated the list where a
> couple of years ago (when I was subscribed to it) every stupid or
> off-topic question lead to LART.