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Re: A message to sys-admin wanna-be-s



On Sun, 3 Oct 1999, Nir Simionovich (Rin Solo) wrote:

> Now, regarding the way people sometimes answer questions on the list. I
> know that I don't often post, but I do read most of the stuff that goes
> around here. I may not be the one to say this, but we had become a group
> of "up nosed", "stuck up", "snobish" sysadmins. We regard questions as a
> little fly that bugs us near the ear, and we need to stop that.

i'm afraid my main point was missed. the people i was mostly refering to
were those who actually try to manage a production system. they should
have the dignity to start reading the books, as they seem to be doing this
as more then just a hobby.

if someone expects to learn how to become an admin just by asking question
and reading FAQs, then one is a dreamer. without reading a few basic
books, one is likely to be a very patchy administrator.

i'm not refering to the hobbist who just wants their PC at home to work
and do waht they need - i wouldn't expect these people to spend so much
time on reading books.

> Each
> sysadmin has his/her strong points, and weak points. Each one of us have
> other things that interest them, so we look more into those things.
> For example, I know that some of the people on the list are strong at
> fields of security, while others are strong at fields of web servers.
> I see the list as a means to colaborate and learn from each other. 
> That is bases behind using Linux (I think), so lets start doing just that.

someone that wants to be a good sys admin should concentrate on what they
need to do their job first, then expand to other areas. i admit that still
the best way to learn this profession is via the old apprentice method -
that is, joining a group that has some 'guru', and learn from them what
you'll not find in any book.

> P.S.
> Guy, thanks for the info, sendmail isn't one of my strong points. The
> sendmail.cf file still has me baffled.

ming you, you have almost no need to understand sendmail.cf any more. use
sendmail's m4 macros, and you can do almost anything you need. only rarely
will you need to actually insert new rules to your sendmail.cf file, or if
you're managing a very large and very complex site, that requires very
unusual settings that hardly anyone used before you.

guy


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