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Re: downloading software
-----Original Message-----
From: Yoni Elhanani <biggo@netvision.net.il>
To: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gby@gtek.co.il>
Cc: Raanan Nitzen <s2961221@techst02.technion.ac.il>; Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
<Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il>
Subject: Re: downloading software
>Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
>> The error you made has nothing to do with the site of download:
>> tar.gz files (or tgz as they sometime knows as) is to be opend with the
tar
>> and gzip programs and NOT with gunzip (which is for ZIP files only)
>
OK.
You got me ;-)
I made my monthly(?) blooper ... I just chekd the man page and, of course,
gunzip will happily deal with .tgz , .Z and the rest of the bunch as well
(what about .bz2?!)
My suggestion has the advantage that it would have untared the file as well
but that is beside the point.
I can only adhere to Tzu Lao's advice and "Welcome disgrace as a pleasant
suprise". Thanks for correcting me ;-)
Now for something completly different:
>> Please note that this list is not a place to ask these kinds questions.
If
>> you have similar questions in the future, please send them directly to me
at
>> gilad@benyossef.com and don't bother this list about them or even
better -
>> try to get some good book about Unix/Linux basics and read it.
>
>Yeah, that's your email. i just sent all my internet passwords to there,
>go fetch it.
(How amuzing. This kid doesn't know how to use "whois". Oh, right, it
doesn't come with a KDE GUI...)
>If somebody has a question, doesnt matter how stupid it is he can ask it
>in here.
>although this was fairly unrelated, (why ftp to a remote server doesnt
>work)
>a question like "how do i use gzip, i hadnt found a howto on it and i
>dont have a book" is an ok question to ask, and thats the idea of LUGs.
>
>considering your wrong answer to him (gunzip unzip only pkzip files) I
>dont think you have a say on "what is stupid" around here.
>
>(although I ask some fairly stupid questions too from time to time...)
Letting aside both my wrong answer and Mr. biggo@netvision.net.il obvious
problems with his well, eh.. *shortcomings*, he does raise an interesting
point - what is this list for?
Way back, when the stable kernel was version 1.0.x, the founder of this list
was still sunscribed and people like Mr. "Biggo" here were taken care of
with vegenense by those more worthy to the task then yours truely (Hi,
Marc - you still here? ;-) this list was a fine resources for Linux lovers
in Israel.
True, we have stopped flogging newbies with SCSI cables (to the regret of
some), but AFAIK the mandate of this list never was and still isn't to hand
hold newbies.
That's right, Mr. Biggo, not all questions are welcomed! They haven't been
welcomed here from before this list organized the the second show at
Computex where I helped carry those Alpha's to "Ganey Ha Tarooha", they
weren't welcome when the people of this list were guests in my house in an
"official" Linux-il meating (no! it's not a spelling mistake ;-) and they
were not welcomed since before this list had an FAQ (have you ever read
it?).
So you see, my dear "Biggo", I said what I said with (some) authority. Of
course, times change. Maybe the people on the list today think otherwise.
But unless you're willing to organise enough peple rise up and say: "Yes!
Linux-il is fr newbie questions!" then the Status-Quo remains - this list is
for a *professional* discussions about Linux in general and in Israel.
Questions about problems downloading files from Finland are off-topic.
Just take into account that for list such as this to have any value, the
noise to data ratio must be below a certain level, after which the list is
useless. At that point the people in the know form other means of
communication and the rest of the bunch stays to "enjoy" post such as the
subject of this thread.
One can very well see that this proccess has already began with Linux-il,
but does not mean that it cannot be reversed. The question is basically,
what do you want this list to be?
OK, Let the flames begin... (or rather, continue ;-)
>
>> Thanks,
>> Gilad.