I agree. Gnome is very unstable at the moment (I'm using it, or rather trying to very carefully). Either go for KDE (I don't like it but Gnome is simply not up to the task at the moment), or use some pretty window manager like Window Maker and demonstrate the real stuff (stability, networking etc.) -- Alex Shnitman alexsh@hectic.net, alexsh@linux.org.il http://alexsh.hectic.net